Package: lists.debian.org Severity: wishlist Hi,
I hereby request to create a new Debian mailing list. Name: debian-cli Rationale: In 2004 we pushed the first CLI (Common Language Infrastructure) [0] runtime into Debian called Mono. The Mono packaging is hosted on Alioth since then, and we have pkg-mono-group, pkg-mono-devel, and pkg-mono-svn-commits mailing lists on it. pkg-mono-group is used by the Mono packaging team for internal discussion and for the Maintainer field. So all bug handling etc goes through that. pkg-mono-devel is used for public discussion regarding packaging Mono and related packages (Mono has more than 1 source package). pkg-svn-commits is used for commit mails. ... 5 years passed ... Mono [0] is (or was) not the only CLI runtime in Debian or other freely available CLI runtime: - GNU Portable.NET [1] - VMKit / LLVM [2] About 100 source packages in Debian are using or based on the Common Language Infrastructure (this became visible for the Mono 2.0 transition) [3]. There is now a need for discussion for using or developing for CLI runtimes, programming using the CLI (like C#, VB.NET, Boo, Nemerle, or other languages for the CLI) and CLI based/enabled libraries or applications (like GTK+/#, GMime, D-Bus#, Tomboy, Banshee, F-Spot). Some users where able to discover the pkg-mono-devel mailing list, but the topic are not really on topic there. And the mailing list is also not very visible to Debian users (and also not intended for them). About the name debian-cli: CLI aka Common Language Infrastructure is the common dominator between all runtimes and programming languages that target the CLI. Similar technology found by other vendors such as Java, use the same term for everything: Java the virtual machine, Java the runtime, Java the bytecode, Java the programming language, Java the platform. This is differently with CLI. VES is the virtual machine, CLR is the runtime, CIL is the bytecode, C# is the programming language, MS .NET or Mono is the platform. For some more details about the terms and the distinction check the Debian CLI Policy [5] As we want to keep the mailing list runtime _and_ language neutral, debian-cli is the correct name for it. Short description: Discussion about Common Language Infrastructure based/enabled runtimes, programming languages, libraries and applications Long description: This list is about using and/or developing for the Common Language Infrastructure (CLI). If you want to develop software or create Debian packages that uses Mono, GNU Portable.NET or LLVM VMKit then you are right on this mailing list. If you are writing software in C#, VB.NET, Boo, Nemerle or other CLI based/enabled programming languages then you are also welcome on this list. Category: Users and Developers Subscription Policy: open Post Policy: open Web Archive: yes [0] ECMA: http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-335.htm ISO: http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=36769 [1] http://mono-project.com/Mono:Runtime [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/dotgnu/pnet.html [3] http://vmkit.llvm.org/ [4] http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianMonoGroup/Mono20TransitionTODO [5] http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/cli-policy/ch-terms.html -- Regards, Mirco 'meebey' Bauer PGP-Key ID: 0xEEF946C8 FOSS Developer mee...@meebey.net http://www.meebey.net/ PEAR Developer mee...@php.net http://pear.php.net/ Debian Developer mee...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
