On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 09:19, Mario Frasca <mfra...@zonnet.nl> wrote: > On 2009-0521 08:14:05, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> Hello Mario, >> >> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 00:10, Mario Frasca <mfra...@zonnet.nl> wrote: >> > Package: wnpp >> > Severity: normal >> > >> > I intend to orphan the abcde package. >> > >> > [...] >> >> I don't think this is the right approach: you have no rights to orphan >> the package you do not maintain. > > I was in fact suspecting as much, but I did not see an alternative... > at least, now I know the way to follow, so thanks for the prompt reply.
you can also try to document yourself before take actions: there is a paragraph[1] about it on devref. [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/beyond-pkging.html#mia-qa >> If you need such things, there is a team created ad-hoc for it: >> MIA team. please contact us before take other actions like this >> one. [...] > > too bad: I alredy filed an other "orphaning" request... that regarding > gnome-swallow-applet, but on that the maintainer more or less 'allowed' > me to do so... and I was slow in reacting (I patched my own version of > the program and only use it on one machine). I know, and indeed I didn't complain with the other one, since I've seen Joss ack on this. >> For such things (and for non-"essential" pacakges) 1 month is >> too short. > > well, I agree that 1 month is too short, but since my email bounced back > as undeliverable, I don't think there are chances I will get a reply > later on :) ... but you're right: if I have an impression, I should > try to understand 'numerically' the reason of my impression so I can > share it with others so here it goes: > > * on the abcde package there are 11 'normal' bugs with a patch. > * to these 11 reports the maintainer replied with 2 emails (total, not each). > * one reply is timestamped 2004-07-05 (report was 2004-06-30), > * other reply is 2005-10-06 (report 2005-10-01). > * the earliest of the trailing 8 reports without maintainer's reply > is timestamped 2006-09-01. > > * there are also 4 'important' bugs, one with patch. > * did not count the replies, there are more here than for 'normal' bugs. > * all reports without a patch have at least one reply by maintainer. > * latest important reported bug: 2006-10-13. > * latest reply: 2006-10-14. > > on the base of 'important' bugs I would _not_ conclude that the maintainer > is missing. There is also an intermediate way to contact the maintainer: file a normal bug against the package with title "should this package be orphaned" (google for it for references) in order to explore the possibility of package orphaning. If no replies come, then that's another point in favour of orphaning. This also avoid the "mail bouce" problem, and it's a public statement, anyone can see Maybe it might be useful to retitle this bug, and reassign it abcde following the "should ..." concept above. > by the way: I see Jesús has an account on LinkedIn... maybe we can > contact him this way... I didn't try yet. and there seems to be many other social networks where Jesus is in, so please try to widen your research. Regards, -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
