On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 14:43 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > But it will show up in Lost+Found in KDE for every user that choose to > remove or disable extra-xdg-menus to reduce the number of toplevel > menu entries in the KDE menu. I consider this a bug in the package. > No package should show up in Lost+found when its depends are > installed, and no package should force the introduction of more > toplevel menu entries in KDE. :)
extra-xdg-menus reason for existence is to introduce the new toplevel entries, but I agree it would be nice if things still worked properly without it installed. The question is basically where to put these apps. Assuming we could agree on a place where otherwise lost "Electronics" only packages could end up - we could patch such a classification into the gnome-menus and kdelibs-data packages. I believe Ubuntu (perhaps Debian as well) already chose to promote the "Science" sub-category to a main-category, as it shows as a root-menu. >From Debian Edu's point of view, any app shipped could plausibly be placed in the "Education" category - but for serious engineers, this simply is not the case. Nor is the software related to Scientific research. Just because I use LaTeX for writing a scientific paper, that doesn't make it a "Science" package - likewise with EDA tools. And as you might guess by now, I'm very much opposed to introducing tenuous links to extra categories for the sake of fudging round a bug in how menus are presented. Any re-grouping of these classifications ought to be done in the system's shipped .menu files. The fix should not be to deliberately miss-classify packages to fit the inadequate menu spec. We need to ship .menu files which construct sensible menu trees from accurate package classifications (even those without an official main category). "Lost+Found" is a really bad name on the part of KDE. Gnome more accurately lists it as "Other" ie.. applications which don't fit the main menu classification. Since the XDG spec is so inadequate, that could very well be expected to match a very large number of specialist applications. > > I'll happily take a look (next weds) to see how best to do this. Again, I've not got time until next week to drive this further. > Talk to itais on IRC about the menues in education-menus. Which channel? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected]

