Le lundi 29 mars 2010 à 01:50 +0200, Pino Toscano a écrit :
> Hm, after a quick talk with Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, I got some of the 
> reasons why this done, e.g. the fact that installing the KDE environment 
> does not make all the KDE application appear in the GNOME menu.
> While this kind of makes sense, there can be perfect valid cases when 
> this strategy creates issue:
> a) a GNOME user wants to try KDE, so they can install KDE, login to it 
> but continue using the GNOME applications they were still using before
> b) like in this bug: installing (some) single KDE applications does not 
> make them shown in the GNOME menu
> c) you are blacklisting some but not all of the KDE applications, so 
> users could be confused to see just some KDE applications appear while 
> others not (apparently without a logic)

The logic is to blacklist applications are installed by default with KDE
and which are either KDE-specific (like all the configuration stuff) or
redundant with existing GNOME applications. I do not claim to have done
a perfect selection, so feel free to suggest changes. 

> For this, let me propose what I think it might be a more elegant idea to 
> propose directly upstream: let the GNOME menu configurable like
> [ ] Show KDE applications
> [ ] Show XFCE applications
> (etc, with those options either user visible or just in gconf)
> and then make it show/hide those applications by just filtering them by 
> looking at their Categories.
> Advantages:
> - the user can choose whether they really want applications of other DEs
> - less blacklist done on Debian's gnome-menu

It would be nice in the end, but it would require first to have the
following fixed.

> Of course, if there are really KDE/GNOME/XFCE/etc-specific .desktop 
> entries which are not marked as OnlyShownIn=..., thosr would still need 
> to be fixed.

This is the root of the problem. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of
such desktop files, and maintainers have apparently better things to do
than fixing them.

In the meantime, note that the gnome-menus blacklist is entirely
configurable.

Cheers,
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