On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 15:18 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Yes it is handy, and the reason why it works well is that it has > Depends. If we use Recommends instead, packages won’t be installed upon > upgrades. Furthermore metapackages would be allowed to migrate to > testing without having all packages ready, and this could completely > break some computers, again upon upgrade. Using Depends ensures that for > a large part of our users, the package selection remains conformant to > our recommendations over time, which means more standardization and less > bugs. k... you're right here...
> Really? How is it different? Isn’t it about hardware support of hundreds > of specific pieces, each of which is only found on a minority of > computers? Of course,.. but I guess a) It would be technically extremely difficult to split of everything hardware related (or vendor related). b) It's what the kernel intended for,.. managing hardware,... so I'd say from a semantical view it's ok for him to include so much vendor dependant stuff. > But I > think it’s important that those who bought iCrap can use it out of the > box Really? I guess this is true for Ubuntu (and I do not mean this in any offensive way).... but not for Debian. At least that's the way I'd like to see Debian ;) I guess Debian is more meant for "experts" and you can expect that, if an expert want's to use e.g. iStuff or Bluetooth with gvfs,.. he's able to find gvfs-istuff > as long as there is no impact for others. Well more code (which is not needed) means always more risk of problems (including security problems). > And I don’t think a few > hundred kilobytes of hard disk space is a substantial impact. Of course,... I've admitted that in the beginning Well... I think you may close the bug then... we probably have different view here... and more or less I just wanted to mention my concern about having more and more stuff integrated which the user is (more or less) forced to use (or at least install) Best wishes, Chris.
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