Hi Bill, On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 03:55:07PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 08:42:52PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Package: menu-xdg > > Version: 0.5 > > Severity: wishlist > > Tags: patch > > > > Hi, > > > > This patch goes with the one in #601139 against the devscripts package. > > Please see there for the full rationale. > > > > In short: I think it would make sense to make it so that menu entries > > which originally are generated from .desktop files are (by default) not > > converted back to .desktop files again; this adds little value (since > > the original .desktop file contains more information, anyway). This > > patch will make the menu method still generate the .desktop file, but > > with an added line of 'OnlyShowIn=Debian', making sure it will not show > > up by default unless overridden somewhere. > > While I thank you for your effort, I disagree with this proposal. The whole > purpose of the Debian menu system is to provide a consistent menu layout > across all environments.
I understand, and agree that this is a worthwhile goal. The current state of affairs, however, is that the menu system is *not* consistent across all environments, because the GNOME maintainers (and in the future, perhaps the KDE maintainers too) do not show the Debian menu system by default. Insisting on that point will not change the situation for the better. Note that my proposed patch does not actually disable generating the menu entries; it merely adds an extra attribute, thereby hiding it in desktop environments by default, but leaving open the possibility to make them show up again. Alternatively, one could change the patch so that rather than adding an 'OnlyShowIn' tag, the desktop entry could gain a tag something like 'X-Source: menu-desktop' (or something similar), signalling that this is a desktop entry that was generated from a menu file generated from a desktop entry (um. Still following? ;-). > Removing some entries in some environments breaks that property, and > makes the Debian menu less useful. Not showing the Debian menu at all makes it even less useful, in my opinion; I believe that having a halfway-populated Debian menu is much more useful than a hidden one. That's what GNOME people currently have, and it doesn't look as if that's going to change any time soon, judging by the opinion of the GNOME maintainers. -- The biometric identification system at the gates of the CIA headquarters works because there's a guard with a large gun making sure no one is trying to fool the system. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/01/biometrics.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
