package gv
close 611053
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* Alan W. Irwin <ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca> [110125 20:15]:
> To recap, in my original message I said
>
> <quote>
> Google searches for these types of warning messages turned up rather
> old advice to install xfonts-100dpi and gsfonts-x11.  I have
> done that, but the warning messages persist.
> </quote>
>
> (Probably that old advice was yours.  :-) )
>
> But what I forgot to do was to restart X (which I thought of for
> myself just before I received your e-mail suggesting it).  When I did
> that 268 Helvetica fonts were listed by xlsfonts and gv no longer
> emits the warning messages.

Ok, I'm closing this bug report then.

> However, there is an interesting question still remaining which is why
> didn't I see these warning messages when I used gv before?  From my
> bash history, I had a big burst of gv activity ~3 weeks ago, and I am
> sure I would have noticed these warning messages then.

If you manage to reproduce the effect, let me know.

> I have complete logs of what is installed on my system, and
> xfonts-100dpi has never been installed until now.  And only
> one version of gv has been installed during the life of this
> OS (I originally installed Debian testing on this system last August).
> Perhaps some library that gv depends on has been updated recently
> to generate these (incorrect, I believe, see below) warning
> messages?

The libraries gv uses are not really subject to change. And with no
fonts available, this font cannot be found.

> The other puzzling thing is I actually have two side by side systems.
> One has xfonts-100dpi installed with X restarted (which fixed the
> warning messages that appeared on that system before) and the other
> one (an X terminal with Debian testing core system + X server
> installed and accessing the first system using X -query) does not so
> that system is still emitting the warning messages.  However, the text
> results from gv look identical in the two cases.  Of course, visual
> inspection has its pitfalls, but in this case the comparison is helped
> because the two systems have identical high-quality monitors. So from
> this visual evidence I suspect gv is using fonts from
> gsfonts/gsfonts-x11 to render Helvetica and emitting (or one of its
> dependent libraries is emitting) an unnecessary warning about lack of
> bitmapped Helvetica fonts from xfonts-100dpi | xfonts-75dpi that are
> not actually being used for the display.  If that is the case, that
> is obviously an issue that should be corrected.

Note that the gv uses many fonts. From what I can see, the Helvetica
should be used only for the non-bold parts of the UI. Those are usually
so slim that I think the difference to some other non-serif font the
system subsitutes would be hardly noticeable.

I do not think that if the warning is printed, anything but the default
font will be substituted.

> Of course, font issues always seem to be complicated, but if you have
> some further suggestions of ways to test my two different systems (one 
> using X clients locally, one using them remotely via X -query,
> but both of which show the issue if xfonts-100dpi is not installed) to
> further clarify what is going on, I would be happy to perform such
> tests.

You can try to use editres to set some fonts to specific values either
in gv or in other Xaw/Xaw3d programs.

Perhaps some output of xtrace can help to determine what fonts are
actually used.
Xmag might also be handy to look for differences.

        Bernhard R. Link



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