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On Sun, 22 May 2011 20:26:30 +0000 "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-
barratt.org.uk> wrote:
>tag 604134 + squeeze-ignore
>thanks
>
>On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 19:39 +0000, Debian Bug Tracking System
>wrote:
>> Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
>>
>> > tags 604134 - squeeze-ignore
>> Bug #604134 [parted] partman-base: Makes MacOS 9 incompatible
>partition table
>> Removed tag(s) squeeze-ignore.
>
>Please don't do that.

Please don't break other operating systems on my computer in such a
way that is irreversible, short of wiping the whole hard disk,
WITHOUT EVEN WARNING ME FIRST! I choose the stable versions of *nix
based operating systems because I don't like running into SEVERE
UNDOCUMENTED bugs like this. If I wanted to use my one and only
working computer to track down and fix/find work-arounds for things
like this, I'd run current.

> The -ignore tags are the domain of the
>Release
>Team and shouldn't be altered without agreement.

The tag was added because it was believed there was a workaround to
restore Mac Classic. Even if this always worked, it seems appalling
to me that an operating system of Debian's reputation wouldn't at
least make note of this bug in the installation instructions. As it
is, the workaround does not always work. It didn't work for me.
There are others it hasn't worked for. The squeeze-ignore tag was
added based on a misconception.

>I don't know partman well enough to know whether your suggestions
>on how
>to modify it to better support your scenario are easily
>integrateable
>(is that even a word?), although it does sound like it might be
>quite a
>large change to try and make to squeeze's d-i now that it's
>released.

The bad news is, I really don't know what-all's wrong with partman,
and apparently, even though this bug has been around for years, no
one else does either, or hasn't admitted to so far as I've read.
The good news is, we don't have to. NetBSD's pdisk, which they have
graciously ported to Linux, is a time-tested way of modifying Apple
Partition Maps without breaking other operating systems, provided
you don't re-initialize the disk or touch partitions that you
shouldn't touch. So, simply offer users a choice between pdisk and
partman, with a strong warning that if they are multi-booting,
especially with Mac Classic, that they should really use pdisk
because partman is broken and might damage their Mac Classic
irreparably (short of wiping the hard drive).

Then there's yaboot, which is a whole 'nother can of worms, because
it doesn't work right if you do it the "recommended way", but is
has a whole slew of protections to protect you from doing in the
"wrong way", even though the wrong way does work. I managed to get
yaboot (but not ofboot.b... fortunately, yaboot is the essential
bit) working, but it was horrendously difficult (at least, for an
operating system of Debian's reputation) because it didn't want me
to configure it that way.

>Certainly adding significant new translatable text tends not to be
>straight forward.

Well, could you translate this much?

"WARNING!!! This installer may break other operating systems on
your computer (especially Mac Classic). In some cases, it may be
impossible to repair without wiping your hard drive and re-
installing everything. DO NOT PROCEED IF THIS IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE
RISK. If that is so, we recommend you use a Unix-based operating
system that does not have this problem, like OpenBSD, or one that
has a well-documented work-around, like NetBSD. There is a very
complicated work-around for Debian, but unfortunately, we were
unable to translate it to all languages."

Or if that's too much for you, just the first three or four
sentences.

>Regards,
>
>Adam
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