On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 02:18:32PM +0200, Massimo Dal Zotto wrote:
> On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 12:43:16PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > severity 294413 serious
> > thanks
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 05:57:45PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > this package should really be removed from debian.
> > > 
> > > - It is in italian, so it is absolutely useless for 
> > >   >99% of debian users. 
> > > 
> > > - The book can easily be downloaded from the internet as stated in the
> > >   Description. So it does not make much sense to wrap it as 
> > >   a debian package.
> > > 
> > > - It wastes  *** 80 Megabytes of disk space *** in the 
> > >   debian mirror.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If debian was jammed with such a documentation in every
> > > language on the world, the distribution would burst. 
> > > 
> > > Whoever wants to read this can do it much easier online or 
> > > could easily download it with a simple click. There's no need 
> > > to waste that much space on all debian mirror.
> > 
> > Hm, I do think the submitter might have a point here. popcon notes 9
> > installations of this book, and indeed, this is a full (huge) book being
> > packaged, which also isn't specifically Debian. There is a huge amount
> > of resources about linux and debian on the internet, and I myself am
> > indeed not able to see why this book would need to be distributed on all
> > mirrors and CD's/DVD's, and not merely be available from some unofficial
> > repository for those interested in a .deb package of the book. Also
> > documentation isn't hard to do without packaging, unlike programs,
> > further reducing the arguments in favour of inclusion.
> > 
> > I'm not 100% sure though. Massimo, you didn't yet reply to this bug.
> > What is your opinion? Please share your thoughts.
> >  
> > --Jeroen
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jeroen van Wolffelaar
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl
> 
> I don't know. In the past I was requested to package this book by some
> italian readers, but I don't know really how may users actually use it
> and if it's still useful for debian.
> 
> Anyway if you think the package wastes too much disk space it is ok for
> me to remove it.

80MB can be significant in making the cut between 2 DVD's or 3 DVD's, or
whether or not sarge fits on 1 dual-layer DVD. To be honest, for the
latter 80MB savings might not be enough, but it certainly helps a big
deal, this book being close to 1% of the size of sarge.

> Should I take some action to have the package actually removed from
> the archives or is this mail sufficient?
 
If you're positive, officially you're requested to file a bug on
ftp.debian.org pseudopackage asking for its removal, but I can take it
on from you if you explicitely say you've decided you want it to be
removed. For sarge, I think we'll now remove it, for unstable, a more
explicit statement is needed :).
 
> BTW, you should remove also alml which is only used for packaging
> this book.

It might be of wider use though, I don't know. I'm hoping for input from
the alml maintainer on this.

Thank you very much,
--Jeroen

-- 
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)
http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl


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