Hi Shaun

Yes, Debian may redistribute binaries of glimpse built from modified source 
code.  Let me know if you need a formal license to that effect.

Thanks for bringing this up, and for maintaining a non-free archive!  I have 
considered asking the University of Arizona (which holds the permanent 
license for glimpse) to GPL the software, and Udi Manber considered the same 
possibility - it may happen for glimpse.  Right now I spend a good portion of 
my time developing Webglimpse, based on Glimpse, and would like to be able to 
make a good portion of my income from selling that software.  

If you have a few moments, take a look at 

        http://webglimpse.net/dev/ppl.html

my suggestion for an alternative route to open source for programmers who wish 
to collaborate on non-free projects, that retains some of the benefits of 
open source.  I can't release glimpse this way either without asking the 
UofA's permission, but its my preference for future projects and maybe for 
glimpse.

And will definitely take a look at the bugfixes to roll them into the main 
version, thanks!!    Whoever contributed them can get resalable licenses in 
exchange if they desire.

Best regards,

--G



On Sunday 03 July 2005 10:32, Shaun Jackman wrote:
> Hello Golda,
> 
> I maintain the Debian package of glimpse, and I've patched a few minor
> bugs. Another Debian developer has raised the issue though that the
> glimpse license doesn't explicitly allow distributing modified
> versions of the software. May Debian redistribute binaries of glimpse
> built from modified source code?
> 
> The Debian Free Software Guidelines state that "The license must
> explicitly permit distribution of software built from modified source
> code." It seems to me this must apply to software in the non-free
> archive as well.
> 
> The modifications are minor bug fixes and can be seen here:
> 
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/g/glimpse/glimpse_4.18.0-3.diff.gz
> 
> On a seperate note, have you considered licensing glimpse under an
> Open Source Initiative license, such as the GPL?
> 
> Thanks,
> Shaun
> 
> On 5/11/05, Göran Weinholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Package: glimpse
> > Version: 4.18.0-4
> > Severity: serious
> > 
> > This is the license of glimpse and as you can see it does not allow
> > any modifications:
> > 
> > ---
> > Copyright 1997, Arizona Board of Regents.
> > 
> > Glimpse was developed by Udi Manber, Sun Wu, and Burra Gopal
> > at the University of Arizona, Department of Computer Science.
> > It is currently maintained and licensed by Internet Workshop.
> > Permission is granted to copy this software, to redistribute it
> > on a nonprofit basis, and to use it for any purpose, subject to
> > the following restrictions and understandings.
> > 
> > 1. Any copy made of this software must include this copyright notice
> > in full.
> > 
> > 2. All materials developed as a consequence of the use of this
> > software shall duly acknowledge such use, in accordance with the usual
> > standards of acknowledging credit in academic research.
> > In particular, if you use glimpse in any way on any WWW site,
> > you should include a link to Glimpse home page at
> > http://webglimpse.org
> > 
> > 3. The authors have made no warranty or representation that the
> > operation of this software will be error-free or suitable for any
> > application, and they are under under no obligation to provide any
> > services, by way of maintenance, update, or otherwise.  The software
> > is an experimental prototype offered on an as-is basis.
> > 
> > 4. Any commercial use of this software will require a license.
> > Contact Internet Workshop
> >         e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         WWW: http://webglimpse.net/licensing.html
> >         Fax: (520) 620-6841
> >         Phone: (520) 620-6878
> > ---
> > 
> > Yet you modify these source code files under the above license in
> > glimpse_4.18.0-4.diff.gz:
> > 
> > glimpse-4.18.0/split.c
> > glimpse-4.18.0/index/glimpse.c
> > 
> > The same license presumably applies to the manpages and the Makefile
> > you've trivially modified. Unless you have obtained permission to
> > modify the above files it seems Debian is in violation of the license.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > --
> > Göran Weinholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Debian developer, sysadmin, netadmin
> 

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