Hi again. * Aron Xu <a...@debian.org> [2011-08-30 13:51:26 CEST]: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 19:45, Gerfried Fuchs <rho...@debian.org> wrote: > > Because ftp masters are only human too, and can make mistakes. Given > > that there is no log of the discussion that dererk had with the unnamed > > ftpmaster, this is very unfortunate, but mistakes happen. > > Yes, I agree they are only human, but I think we need to know why they > do this, if they are exactly wrong (according to the Policy, they are > definitely wrong) we need to help them avoid similar problems in the > future.
If we would be able to explain why we do mistakes the world could be a much better place indeed! Unfortunately I fear that the ftpmasters aren't any better at explaining why they do mistakes than anyone else. > As commented above, we don't need them to interpret or explain Policy, Thanks, so it's clear that conky has to return to contrib it seems. Thanks for the agreement on that grounds. > but at least I myself want them to explain why they chose to accept > packages like this, and why the buildds have contrib enabled by > default for main packages. See above, explaining mistakes would solve much more than this issue for mankind. E.g. I don't ask for an explenation for why there is a Changed-By: foo...@debian.org entry in one of the conky upload changes files because it doesn't change anything. Sending them a notification though does help (and you can be assured that I discussed it with parts of the ftp team). And the buildds seem to have contrib enabled because there are some corner cases where contrib packages do not depend on non-free software (like in the case of conky) for compiling and thus can be automatically built. I think a seperation of this into different chroots might make sense, on the other hand, that's out of scope for this ticket and should be discussed with the buildd admins. The scope of this bugreport should be getting the policy violation fixed, not for general conceptual mistakes that happen in completely different areas, so please keep it related to the bugreport, or move further discussions along that lines to a more suiting place. My intention is to get conky in a releaseable shape again, which it currently because of this issue isn't. Thanks, Rhonda -- Fühlst du dich mutlos, fass endlich Mut, los | Fühlst du dich hilflos, geh raus und hilf, los | Wir sind Helden Fühlst du dich machtlos, geh raus und mach, los | 23.55: Alles auf Anfang Fühlst du dich haltlos, such Halt und lass los | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
