On 14.12.2011 06:00, Russ Allbery wrote: > I'm increasingly convinced by the recent discussion on debian-devel that > doing all the (rather substantial) work required to keep this separation > working is a waste of our collective time. We're not doing a very good > job at it anyway, chasing all the library dependencies is a fair amount of > work, and things have to keep moving around as dependencies change. And > this is all to support use cases that, while real, are fairly marginal in > my estimation. This does not seem like the most effective place for us to > be spending our time.
nod. I had to move a couple of libraries myself in the past and it's a laborious task (and I've often seen it not done right). E.g. while moving the library file to /lib, you should keep the devel files (.so symlink, .a/.la files, pkg-config files) in /usr/lib. You can't just move the .so symlink around, so you need to do it manually. The problem is, that the major build systems (autoconf/automake, cmake) don't have support for such split installations. > > I don't know if it's worth the effort to unify /bin and /usr/bin or the > other similar things that have been discussed from time to time, but I do > think it may be time for Debian to just officially say that we don't > support /usr on a (meaningfully) separate partition from /bin and /lib, > and that binaries in /bin may have dependencies on /usr/lib. > The more I think about it, the more I like the idea to simply move everything to /usr, and make /(s)bin and /lib symlinks. While I personally never found it very useful to put /usr on a separate partition, I acknowledge that such installations are around (especially since d-i presents this partitioning scheme in such a prominent way) and we must not break such installations on upgrades. We'd have to make sure, that for such installations e.g. a initramfs is installed, which can mount /usr. That said, I'd also like to see us deprecate a separate /usr altogether. And a first step would be to update d-i to no longer present this option. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
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