Hi, On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 22:44:40 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 02:06:07PM +0000, Michael Tautschnig wrote: [...] > > 1. Determine whether base-passwd is in line with policy on providing its > > functionality as an "essential" package. > > A) If it is, then debootstrap is buggy. > > Even if it somehow is, there's a practical problem: it's impossible to > deploy a fix to a significant part of users. >
Yes, I can see that. But determining the package at fault would nevertheless help to see what the best fix is in the long run. > > B) If base-passwd violates policy, then base-passwd is buggy. > > I say it is, but since the only consumer that matters is base-files, it > might be safer to change the latter. > Well, as Santiago has said in many ways, the necessary changes to base-files could be painful as well. I'd rather see it the other way: if base-passwd were changed, it might as well be possible to simplify debootstrap further as it could be the case that the present dpkg -i call specific to base-files and base-passwd would no longer be necessary, i.e., they could just be installed in arbitrary sequence with the other essential packages. > > My point of view is that base-passwd should be changed, and thanks to > > suggestions from Tollef last night the attached patch should actually > > achieve > > this. The idea simply is to sort out creating /etc/passwd and /etc/group in > > preinst already, so that these files will be present once the package > > reaches > > the state "unpacked." > > I tested your patch when debootstrapping from squeeze, it did work. Should > I test some more scenarios (cdebootstrap? 2-phase cross-arch debootstrap? > some other distro?) -- or do you think it should be safe? > Cool, thanks!! If testing is trivial for you then I'm sure this would be appreciated (in particular the "it did not work before, but not it works" improvement). While I wouldn't really expect any new problems, I don't know enough about, e.g., cdebootstrap so maybe something could go wrong over there? Best, Michael
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