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block 829701 by 760306
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On 07/08/2016 02:34 AM, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 12:21:36PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
>>> Let me quote:
>>>    You are authorized to use our trademarks subject to this Trademark 
>>> Policy, and only on the further
>>>    condition that you download images of the trademarks directly from our 
>>> [35]website. You are not
>>>
>>> Your packaging of Mediawiki does not do that. Users of your packaging
>>> do not do that. That alone is grounds for unfreeness.
>>
>> Well, first of all, "freeness" and "free software" are terms that apply
>> to copyright law and licenses, as is the DFSG for that matter. There is
>> no such thing as a "free" or "non-free" trademark license — neither
>> Debian nor the FL/OSS community at large have made any such definitions.
> 
> Independent of that, shipping the file as-is violates their trademark
> policy.
> 
>> <snip>
> 
>> I don't interpret that clause like you do, but I'd be happy regardless
>> to raise this with Wikimedia's legal team.

Thorsten, I also do not interpret the clause as you do. Upstream
currently believes they are okay to distribute (by virtue of
distributing them), and I agree with that position.

I have also contacted the Wikimedia Foundation legal team for further
clarification on the matter. Barring a comment from them or the
ftp-masters, I plan on keeping the files in the MediaWiki package.

-- Kunal

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