On Sun, 2018-11-25 at 21:39 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 07:21:17PM +0000, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > ...
> > In general, I realise that not every makefile might implement
> > VERBOSE/V, but I think it's the most common pattern, so I think
> > it's
> > the best chance we have to support it automagically via debhelper.
> > If
> > some package uses a different set of variables for verbosity (or
> > none
> > at all), then they'll have to use overrides, but they'd be no worse
> > than now - of course unless there are more breakages, in which case
> > we
> > can revert/use a compat level. Does this sound like a plan?
> > ...
> 
> The problem is not about finding the correct variable for verbosity.
> 
> The problem is that Makefiles are allowed to use variables like V or 
> VERBOSE for whatever purpose they want, and with whatever values
> they 
> want.
> 
> It is not even clear that all breakages are FTBFS,
> we might end up with misbuilt packages due to that.

True, I didn't think of other more subtle failures. I've updated the MR
to revert the change. It's a pity, but I guess the lesser evil is to
live with having to add more boilerplate to d/rules.

-- 
Kind regards,
Luca Boccassi

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