On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 10:46:36PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Hi Andrea > > I just uploaded the attached debdiff to DELAYED/7. > > As discussed in this bug report, the changes for usrmerge *must* happen for > trixie and are not optional. So it is better to get those out of the way. > Your planned package restructuring can still happen for trixie, but in this > case, please upload to experimental first as dumat will then flag the > potential issues. Please get in contact with the usrmerge team then and we > are happy to assist you. > I acknowledge that you wanted to do the usrmove changes and the package > restructuring at the same time. But experience has shown that it's actually > better to do those separately.
You didn't CC me on this message, so I only noticed it today by pure chance. Obviously I'm extremely unhappy to see changes being made unilaterally to a package that I've spent the past several years dutifully caring for, especially after I had explicitly, on multiple occasions, expressed my disagreement with your plan of action. I have already acknowledged the importance of completing the usr-merge work for trixie. That was never up for debate. But there are still several months worth of opportunities to get those changes in, which is something that you yourself implicitly admit by saying how I can still get my restructuring done in time. Plus there's the quote from Helmut a little earlier in the thread: > The hard deadline from my point of view is the start of the transition > freeze. Until then, we'll increasingly poke and if you get too close, > you risk using an inferior solution due to time pressure. I imagine that > if you get late, you may have to revert part of the restructuring. > > Traditionally freeze happens on January 12th. So we'll be poking quite > hard in December already. Let us avoid such poking for libvirt. No need to poke hard in December when the change has already been forcefully performed in August, I guess! From my side, I haven't been sitting idly since our last interaction and I have made significant progress on the restructuring front. To further prove my commitment to making that happen, I have even taken a few days off work specifically so that I could focus on getting it done as soon as possible. Unfortunately there are outside factors that conspire to limit the time I can dedicate to Debian in any given week, but really I'm doing the best that I can here. Anyway, you've uploaded the changes now, so it's a done deal I guess. I'll just figure out how to deal with any potential fallout. Maybe it will turn out that I've been worrying over nothing and there are no bad interactions resulting from the two restructurings happening in separate uploads... I certainly hope that's the case. Note that I have also uploaded 10.6.0-1 in the meantime, which is set to migrate to testing tomorrow. I wonder how the two uploads will interact with each other. -- Andrea Bolognani <e...@kiyuko.org> Resistance is futile, you will be garbage collected.
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