Hi Andre

Am Wed, Sep 02, 2026 at 04:37:40PM +0200 schrieb Andre Noll:
> > I noticed that your private repository contained changelog entries
> > pretending releases of a new upstream version but these never have
> > reached the Debian mirrors.
> 
> Right. I proposed a way forward, but got no reply from the any of the Debian
> people involved. See Bug#1086623.
> 
> Due to this bug, both tfortune and lopsub were removed from testing on July
> 26th.

It was removed due to bug #1126662 actually.

> Given this and the fact that I already spent way too much time on
> an issue that should take five minutes to resolve, I decided to not invest
> further time on Debian integration issues. IOW, Debian just lost a 
> contributor.

That's sad to hear.  Does this mean you want to orphan your packages?
If so I can do a QA upload and make the QA team maintainer.
 
> In fact, I already removed the tfortune web page and its git repo, continuing
> development non-publicly.

I do not understand why the fact that you are not happy to maintain some
software in Debian (which I can understand to some extend) is a
motivation to remove a repository containing GPL-3 software (which can
be used by other distributions or users who want to compile it from
scratch) from the web.

> This is why the vcs tracker complains. The only
> reason the lopsub repo and web page are still online is that other projects
> of mine (see the link in the signature below) depend on it. I'm planning to
> remove the "debian" branch of lopsub, though, because it is not needed to
> build the package from source.

Its actually very sensible to remove the debian/ dir from upstream source
repositories.
 
> I might reconsider this decision if somebody volunteers to act as the
> Debian maintainer for both tfortune and lopsub.

The fact that you are seeking for a new maintainer is not obvious at
all.  As I said I could do QA uploads and file according Orphan bugs for
both packages.  This expresses that a new maintainer is needed.

> This person's job would be
> to maintain the debian/ directory to improve the integration with the Debian
> infrastructure, to upload new versions, and to coordinate non-Debian related
> changes with me. If nobody is willing to do this work, the packages should
> probably get removed.

Alternatively to orphaning you can file a removal bug.  Debian has a
strict package ownership model.  So you are the person who can decide
whether orphaning or removing would be appropirate and you can ask for
removal as well (Hint: `reportbug other` and follow the menu).

I admit I'd be motivated to do a QA upload of
   https://salsa.debian.org/debian/liblopsub
since I've spent some time into it and doing something similar with
tfortune would be easy as well.  Just let me know what you want to do
and how I can help you in doing so.

Kind regards
    Andreas.

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