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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:03:25AM -0900, James Zuelow wrote:
> With a CD or DVD in the drive, it spins constantly.  Is the "fix" adding
> documentation to /usr/share/doc/hal/README.Debian?  It took me a while to
> find the culprit -- I spent time trying to figure out if it was a problem
> with acpi, hdparm, etc.  I watched a movie on my laptop (HP dv9000z) and
> when it was done, left the DVD in the drive.  The next morning my DVD is
> still spinning at full speed, REALLY hot, and now makes a grunch noise
> when I load or eject it that it did not do before.  Hmm.  Not even two
> months old.  :(

> I may be demanding for a non-coder who is not skilled enough to submit
> patches, but IMHO this should be fixed in a better way.

There is no better way.  This is a bug in your drive's firmware, not in hal;
hal is functioning as designed, it's the drive firmware that's not working
according to the spec.

We can't disable CD ROM polling by default, this is a major aspect of hal's
functionality.

We can't auto-blacklist all CDs that have buggy firmware, there is no
comprehensive list available.  (Though the maintainer is welcome to decide
to blacklist the ones we know about, if he thinks that's a good idea.)

That leaves documentation.

> Users will not move the example script into place until after they notice
> the problem and after they identify hal as the problem.  At that point
> their drive may be damaged.  Non technical users may not even know about
> the existence of /usr/share/doc/hal/README.Debian in the first place.

We can document this in the release notes as well.

> When I move the example fdi to disable checks for all CD/DVD's (since
> there's only one anyway) I don't get the pause issue, but the drive does
> spin up from time to time (1-5 minutes) to check.

This is after restarting hal?

The fact that it spins up at all is troublesome.  It shouldn't be doing that
once hal is configured to not poll for media.

> lshal reports my hardware as:

>   info.product = 'DVDRAM GSA-4084N'  (string)

> To get the manufacturer as well:

>   info.product = 'DVDRAM GSA-4084N'  (string)
>   info.vendor = 'HL-DT-ST'  (string)

> My kernel comes from the buildserver.net archive, to work around some
> nVidia nForce issues fixed in 2.6.19+.  I don't think that has anything to
> do with it, but it does change things as the 2.6.20 kernel has moved pata
> drives into the scsi subsystem alongside sata drives.  So my DVD is not
> /dev/hdc, but /dev/scd0.

There could be kernel differences here, I don't know.  Based on the product
identifier, though, your CD ROM does seem to be in the same product line as
the others which are known to have problems.

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Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
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