Thomas it is all fine and good to say  "(lets not go into details why this
happened)" but the details support the reality of the situation. Please
read (https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00008.html) and see
where Iain says

>>It is worth noting that live-build is not a Debian project, it is an
external project that claims to be an official Debian project. This is
something that needs to be fixed.

My understanding come from the people who initiated the take over of
building live images. If I am wrong then so was Iain and you should have
been a part of the discussion back in November 2015 to clear it all up for
us.

I want Live-Wrapper to succeed (only because it is the official Debian Live
system) and I support it through testing it and reporting on things I have
found which would limit the audience who could use it but I also want
Live-Build to continue (because Live-Build is more suitable for a roll your
own images that derivatives would create).

I must admit I am concerned about this reluctance "to go into details".
This type of thing keeps people in the dark and that is something I do not
support. There is no need to go over all the details but at least provide
proof as I have done.

On 5 July 2017 at 08:34, Thomas Goirand <tho...@goirand.fr> wrote:

> On 06/27/2017 11:53 PM, Michael . wrote:
> > Charles, let me clear up a couple of misconceptions for you. Debian Live
> > (made with Live Wrapper) is an official Debian project. Live Build (the
> > old Debian Live) apparently wasn't official but was recognised by Debian
> > for its official images. Live Build is now officially part of Debian
>
> Hum... You also have some misunderstanding here. Live-build has been
> packaged in Debian, and fully part of Debian for *years* (well before
> Raphael worked on it).
>
> What changed is that, since Daniel Baumann doesn't build the live images
> anymore (let's not go into details why this happened), Steve does it at
> the same time as other Debian images. It's now included in a single
> process of building images.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas Goirand (zigo)
>
>

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