Hi Lucas,

Sorry for the slow response - my week of work travel interfered more with
this thread than anticipated. Responses below.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[email protected]> wrote:

> First, Nothing below is a definitive answer, either positive or negative.
> As you know, we don't have clear guidelines/policies for that question.
> I'm trying to get a better understanding first, and I'm open to changing
> my mind. :)
>

Right, I realize this is a new situation for Debian.


> There are two different questions in your email, even if it's not
> explicitely stated: naming that image "Debian image", and naming that
> image "official Debian image".
>

Correct.

Given the amount of customization you describe, my current feeling is
> that naming that image "Debian image" should be approved, and even more
> after you switch to using a Debian-provided kernel.
>

Great. This is what we're planning to do for now in our May 2013
announcements, documentation, etc. Our most important near-term naming goal
is that the image can appropriately be called Debian, so that Debian
support forums only get asked to support things which are reasonable for
them to support.

As a #debian channel operator myself, I know how inappropriate "based on
Debian" support requests are. :) From my experience doing #debian support,
I think this will work out as well for the Google Compute Engine images as
for the Amazon EC2 images. Plenty of people use other kernels on Debian
while remaining fully supportable otherwise, but even that difference won't
remain long-term.

Now, "official Debian image". I don't think that for EC2, "official" has
> been explicitely defined. It could mean "generated and provided by
> Debian", "recognized by Debian as being 'pure'", but also "part of the
> list of default images on GCE" (that would be "official" from the GCE
> POV, not from the Debian POV).
>
> Could you clarify what you are aiming for?
>

This will be official from Google's perspective quite soon. We consider it
worth addressing the obstacles preventing Debian from considering it
official, but this will take longer than the week before Wheezy's release.
Doing it properly will require further collaboration within Google and with
Debian over the months ahead.

- Jimmy

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