Hello, Here are my notes from yesterday's team meeting.
Google Compute Engine official images ------------------------------------- We discussed the future of the Google Compute Engine image support, following the removal of google-compute-engine from bullseye. The immediate issue was lack of a maintainer to do updates & handle security issues. Kula may be able to find someone to help. In the long term, the Google stakeholders need a way to release more rapid updates than we've been able to achieve through stable updates so far. No solution is immediately forthcoming. AWS special region support -------------------------- AWS hosts a number of special regions that aren't automatically accessible to ordinary customers. Our process currently does not publish Debian images to these regions. Noah has started internal discussion at AWS to determine what would be required to start delivering images there. The future of networking config ------------------------------- We had an extensive discussion on future options for network configuration. Noah has a working test sid image using systemd-networkd. He also told us about nm-cloud-setup, a NetworkManager tool to do network config in cloud environments. nm-cloud-setup uses systemd-networkd, but offers support for ipv6 prefix delegation, secondary ips, and per-interface policy routing. It provides a set of systemd services so that administrators can modularly enable and disable these features. We agreed that these alternatives to ifupdown should be considered for bookworm. Preferably early, so any issues can be worked out. Some things to consider were raised: - Project choices: if ifupdown is replaced, we should consider the new default tool. All things being equal, it'd be better if the cloud images could use the same system as other Debian systems. - Zigo asked about how the alternatives behave when the dhcp server is unavailable. ISC's dhcp client's behavior can sometimes cause service outages in this scenario. - Downstream tools may be affected too: numerous tools integrate with ifupdown, e.g. cloud-init, saltstack, etc. These tools and their users would be affected. - IPv6-only network support: there are some barries to working in ipv6-only networks. It'd be a good release goal for bookworm to get this working. Salsa group ownership --------------------- Zigo reminded us that the salsa groups never had their owners adjusted for delegation updates after the sprint in Boston. I've been added as owner to both groups, and after Thomas Lange has a change to setup multi-factor authentication, he'll be added as well. Previous owners Steve McIntyre and Luca Filipozzi were changed to develoeprs. Thanks to both of them for all of their help. Image finder updates -------------------- Arthur presented some cool new features of the images finder that he's been working on. This included: - the ability to see the packages in any image - and endpoint for submitting new image details to the finder db - a way to create tokens for programmatic access via the ui - a system for admin accounts & ui for editing the descriptive texts There was some disagreement over whether or not we wanted the description to be modifiable via the ui, or have admin access. We also discussed some feature requests for the deployment to make it easier to manage. Arthur's changes aren't uploaded to salsa or live on the site yet. But hopefully they'll be available soon. Thanks, Ross
