Hi Ross,

Thanks for the explanation. I'll look into making the kernel upgrade
process smooth for us before anything else then. Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 11:55 AM Ross Vandegrift <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Amy,
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 11:22:12AM -0700, Amy Crate wrote:
> > We have some teams in GCP that would like to make use of the
> > linux-headers-cloud-amd64 package. Sometimes they are using an image for
> > longer than the default kernel on that image has a linux-headers package
> in
> > the repositories, but would still like to be able to use the image
> without
> > a kernel upgrade & reboot. For this reason we'd like to include
> > linux-headers-cloud-amd64 in our images by default. Any thoughts on this?
> > Is there a reason not to include this? Can this be incorporated upstream?
>
> IMO the correct way forward for such users is to upgrade even if that
> means reboting.  I think I'm opposed to this change for a few reasons.
>
> From a policy point of view: our images follow the requirements at [1].
> Including kernel headers would be a significant deviation from the
> default Debian experience.  I don't think the justification above is
> sufficient to override this concern.
>
> From a practical point of view: it'd increase the size of the images for
> one idiosyncratic use case.  Note that the linux-headers-amd64
> transitive dependencies include kbuild, gcc, binutils, and a significant
> number of shared libraries.
>
> That also increases the mirror traffic for updates and the security
> surface area that people's scanners will complain about.
>
> Ross
>
> [1] - https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/OfficialImages
>


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Amelia Crate | Systems Development Engineer | GCP Guest OS Images

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