Hi, On 11/08/25 at 14:56 +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 11:04:37AM +0100, Andrew Chadwick wrote: > > I noticed that there are no Trixie boxes listed at > > > > https://portal.cloud.hashicorp.com/vagrant/discover/debian > > https://app.vagrantup.com/debian (its cooler alias, for now I guess) > > > > Now that Trixie is out, please can a Vagrant box be added for it? I'm an > > amd64+libvirt kind of guy myself, but I realise there are more types of box > > to pack than just this, and it's a ton of work. Thanks in advance. > > I don't have the reference to it at hand, but it was announced that > due to the license change of Vagrant all previous contributors lost > interest. > > Thus I'd suggest not expecting any further updates to these images.
I was doing the work required to update Debian images for Vagrant, and was also involved in the maintenance of the Vagrant package. The current situation is: 1/ The Vagrant software is now non-free. There's still a package in Debian (trixie), with the latest free version. There are been discussion in https://bugs.debian.org/1049999 and in the thread starting with https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2025/06/msg00484.html about the future of this package. Hans-Christoph Steiner is maintaining it at the moment (even if this doesn't reflect in the Uploaders field of the package in trixie). 2/ The Vagrant images moved from VagrantCloud to HashiCorp Cloud Platform. Since then, I frequently ran into issues when uploading new images, and it's not clear if HashiCorp is going to continue to support old Vagrant versions with HCP. After contacting HCP's support about one of those issues (see https://github.com/hashicorp/vagrant/issues/13571, reported January 10th, fixed March 5th), HashiCorp support replied "you need to update the Vagrant version if you want to use HCP Vagrant boxes.". It's not clear if this is an official HashiCorp statement (someone else said they want to maintain backward compatibility with older versions in the github issue), but I would not bet on being able to use HCP images with the free Vagrant version for too long. There was more discussion in https://bugs.debian.org/1104105. As a result, I decided to stop maintaining Debian images for Vagrant. Your options are: A/ use the latest debian/testing64 image, which was updated on 2025-04-26, so it might be sufficiently close to what Debian trixie looks like. B/ find a new maintainer for the Debian images. If someone wants to take over, the tooling at https://salsa.debian.org/cloud-team/debian-vagrant-images/ still works (except maybe for the upload part) and I can walk you through it if needed. C/ switch to something else. Personnally, I switched to Incus and since I missed a declarative way to describe my environments, I wrote Incant, a Vagrant-inspired frontend that brings that to Incus (see https://github.com/lnussbaum/incant/). It's still rough around the edges but has met my needs, and I heard positive feedback from others. And I have a few pending changes are MRs to look at, so it will likely improve soon. Also Incus has an image for Debian trixie uploaded on a regular basis (daily I think) and usually also has an image for Debian testing. Lucas
