On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 11:43:34PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:03:17AM -0800, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > > Subject: Re: Processed: Escalating #345067 to the technical comittee, as > > the maintainer asked me to do so, and is unable or unwilling to > > do his job without this. > > > > reassign 345067 tech-ctte > > Bug#345067: [powerpc] ide-generic is not built on powerpc, yaird tries to > > include it and fails > > Bug#343427: linux-image-2.6.14-2-powerpc: Installation fails > > Bug reassigned from package `yaird' to `tech-ctte'. > > I can see there's some sort of dispute over this bug, but I can't see a > precise explanation of exactly what it breaks.
ide-generic is not built on powerpc, yaird will inconditionally try to include ide-generic into the ramdisk if via82cxxx is present (while the real hacky workaround was not to load it always, but only to load it after via82cxxx). As a resuly, any powerpc machine using the via82cxxx module has a kernel which is uninstallable with yaird, and as yaird used to be the default, this means upgrade to newer kernel are uninstallable without hand-hacking yaird. > Jonas Smedegaard's comment in #343427, in response to Sven Luther: > > > > The ide-generic module is not built on powerpc, > > In the _current_ _official_ kernel package in Debian, or in any > > sysfs-supporting powerpc Linux kernel ever, locally built or not? > > seems to be the important question; and I gather the answer is that the > official kernel packages don't use it, but that some can. Contents-powerpc Well, even if some *can* use it, that is no reason enough to force it down the throat of everyone, and in any case, it is not enough to claim it is *needed*. In fact i claim that the fact that the official kernel work without ide-generic is proof enough that it *cannot* be *needed* on powerpc. (at this point jonas simply refused to pursue the discussion, and there is no other issue apart fro mthe tech comittee or an hostile takeover). > seems to bear this out, as does my config-2.6.15-1-powerpc: > > # CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC is not set > > Has anyone at all spoken to the via82cxxx upstream about getting the > dependency information fixed so that this hack isn't needed in the > first place? Well, it is not really a dependency as far as i see. The real problem is that some x86 machines exhibited strange behavior with regard to DMA, when ide-generic was loaded before via82cxxx, which is logical since it seems ide-generic cannot do DMA without a real driver, and thus the solution was to force ide-generic loading after via82cxx always, on all arches, without even checking if ide-generic was built or not. My patch may not be the best, it just reverted that previous hack on powerpc only, but all i got in return was silence, and then plain refusal to even hear the argumentation exposed here. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
