On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Don Armstrong <d...@debian.org> wrote: > Are people who are doing cross-building like this actually using the > code which will be in jessie? I (perhaps naïvely) would expect them to > be primarily using the code in unstable, and maybe at a late stage of > bring-up rebuilding all of stable.
Important use case that people seem to be ignored: cross-building source code but *not* using Debian infrastructure. This still matters to Debian because it affects how much support both upstream and the package maintainers can give without having access to actual hardware. If cross-compilers are available in the exact same version (which, depending on where the bug is found, may be in the stable release or not), it is *much* easier for the people with more intimate knowledge of the package to directly support it. The code I work on isn't packaged for Debian yet, but without having cross-compilers to play with, I will *never* be able to support anything other than x86-*. I was using secretsauce builds for a while on my dev machine (when I think to test them), but that's not suitable for running my buildbot. I got excited that it was landing in time for Jessie, but because of this maintainer turf war it looks like I'll be another 3 years (i.e. until 'Stretch' is stable) without CI for non-x86 arches. I expect that my code will be ready to be packaged for Stretch, but who is going to take responsibility for finding and fixing the non-x86 bugs, given that the gcc maintainer is going out of his way to make things difficult? Honestly, disabling cross-compilers sounds like saying "x86-* are the only arches that matter" and negating the entire selling point of multiarch. I can't seriously believe the argument against cross-compilers is "you need to enable multiarch repos" - where else are you going to get all your library dependencies - bring back an entire set of ia32-libs packages, but for *every* arch? This is ludicrous, but it sounds like what the gcc maintainer is recommending. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+xnfzmwhiqtbdsl9e9qovnnzdk2rerbq0xshu2v9elawy-...@mail.gmail.com