-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 18-05-2005 00:26, Sergio Talens-Oliag wrote: > El Tue, May 17, 2005 at 10:44:07PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard va escriure: > >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>Hash: SHA1 >> >>On 17-05-2005 16:44, Holger Levsen wrote: >> >> >>>In our vision a Custom Debian Distribution is built from one cdd package >>>per CDD (see http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?CDDTool for more info on >>>that). >>>That cdd package is not maintained inside Debian but maintained by the CDD. >> >>To clarify: While most other CDD work is best passed on to Debian, the >>actual CDD package is not intended for inclusion in the official Debian >>archive. > > > That's not my idea, it is just the opposite, any CDD can be included in > Debian as a single package that only has dependencies on the cddtool runtime > system. > > Of course if a derived distribution prefers to have it's own repository it > can have its description package outside Debian and use the same tools that > CDD use, but the idea about Custom Debian Distributions has always been that > they should be included on the Debian distribution.
That the actual distribution should be included within the Debian? Like "Debian ships its main distribution consisting of 2-3 DVDs 1st of june and expects to ship its Skolelinux distribution a few weeks after that"? My idea is that the moment all parts of a CDD is part of Debian, the CDD has become irrelevant: The main Debian distribution is then able to do all of the CDD itself. I mean - until Debian asks only a couple of non-geeky questions by default in order to roll out a system usable as a school network, Skolelinux will continue to generate its own CD-based distro _outside_ of Debian, and while it makes sense to include the _generator_ of CDDs (cddtool) it does not make sense to clutter the Debian package pool with "sample uses of the cddtool distro-generator". Those fit better as files below /usr/share/doc/cddtool/examples/ IMHO. >>So I suggest changing the current definition of CDD (as described at >>http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?CustomDebian ) from currently reading >>"all extras they offer will either become part of Debian, or are >>temporary workarounds" to add "except what is relevant to the CDD only >>(selection of packages, unique config tweaks, custom logo and so on)". > > > I believe the definition is right, if it has things outside Debian that are > never going to be included then we are talking about a Derived Distribution, > that is all, it can use and share almost everything with the Debian > Distribution, but it is not 100% Debian. So Skolelinux is then just a "Cool Debian Derivative" and not a "Custom Debian Distribution" (due to including SUN Java)? I believe that's not how they identify themselves (I am referring to them in third person because actually I agree with your definition even though I participate in their project). NB! Please note that I speak for myself here - seeing CDD metapackages as alien to Debian was not discussed last weekend amongst Skolelinux developers at GÃtersloh. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ - Enden er nÃr: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCi1uIn7DbMsAkQLgRApfYAJ441NC61aQugbIPceKOj+wYJDZwNACcD7pY Fh+VveF8SrszRP79BWyja44= =Mao+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
