Wow. Somebody makes a one line suggestion (which seems
like a good idea) and you twist it into:

1. An incorrect statement. "ecn is a routing
protocol." rotfl.  Find a computer science textbook before
you post to the list again.

2. A configuration option, when you know concensus on this
list is that there will be none; and that the default will
be on.

3. A statement that blames ECN, when the broken equipement
is your moronic Zyxel router.  The idiot user you're
designing the message for is just as likely to think that
ECN will cause his modem to explode.

C'mon. If you want a message, start with
Documentation/Configure.help.  If you really want to help,
pick a fight you stand a chance of winning and suggest
places for messages and documentation.

Debian users who have broken equipment will just have to
be clueful enough to disable ECN if they find that their
router violates RFC 791.  Help them have a clue.

-neil



On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 11:14:47PM +0200, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Remco van de Meent wrote:
> 
> > But anyway - I agree that Debian should not be too conservative with
> > regard to new networking technologies, so disabling ECN by default is
> > not something I'd like to see happen. Give the user some short
> > explanation and let him make the decision himself, I'd say.
> 
> OK. How exactly should this be worded:
> 
> "ECN is a routing protocol. Some equipment doesn't support ECN
>  yet. Switching it on can break your networking and it will make some
>  internet sites unreachable. If you want to disable ECN then select "No".
> 
>  Do you want to enable ECN: "Yes"  "No""
> 
> And the default will be on "Yes". Would you say "Yes"? Or how exaclty do
> you want to phrase this to let the user make an informed decison?
> 
> Moreover, what about bootfloppies. In case there will be bootfloppies, do
> you want to bother the user with such questions? Or do you want to
> have two versions of the kernel - one for the bootfloppies and one for
> the "maintree"?
> 
> And what is *exactly* the problem of displaying:
> 
>       "ECN Disabled - Edit /etc/network/options to enable it"
> 
> in the bootmessages and let the user switch it on if he wants?
> *t
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