On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Björn Stenberg wrote: > However, it still means packages get bogus dependencies that keep them out > of testing. Even if the package in question was already accepted in stable.
The issue is: Define BOGUS. Most of the time, the maintainers of the -dev packages know very well why they have changed the versioned dependencies. It is also a no-granularity solution, for which the only alternative is full-blown symbol versioning as done by glibc (i.e. you keep old ABIs around, even!). > Let me be blunt and ask: Is this a "we don't care, go away" issue or why is > this so difficult to discuss? If it was a frequently asked (and answered) The shlib dep system is well explained in the developer documentation, and it is almost never a matter of curiosity of non-developers... it is also the best that can be done AFAIK. Only people building packages need to direct interact with it, and only if they are responsible for a library package, even... otherwise it is all automatic. As for shlib information keeping stuff out of testing, that's the wrong POV. THAT *is* the entire charter of testing: if we don't know it will work, don't let it in. The system is working as designed. If you want the packages to flow in testing, you need to make sure their dependencies do. I pay little attention to testing, so I don't know exactly what is freezing it right now, but the truth is: people who care about testing are encouraged to clean up the bugs *in unstable* that are holding things from testing, or to go away (fixing the bugs are the ONLY desired way to get things into testing). Sometimes the bugs are not in packages, but in infrastructure or something else... but that's rare. There isn't much else we can do, really. We have to keep the distribution in testing and stable coherent, so that means fix stuff in unstable, and only let it get to testing when dependencies are satisfied (and new bugs not added, subject to some manual control by aj). If you need to live in the bleeding edge (I do), then use unstable and take the proper precautions to not get caught in major breakages just when you needed your system working the most... -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh
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