On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:07:12PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: [...] > Regardless, I actually think it's a wonderful scaleability measure to > provide some infrastructure that allows DDs to delegate some of the > packaging work to NMs in the queue, who can prove that they are worth > their salt, or to non-DDs, who can contribute to the project in a > controlled manner that way.
This is conceptually wrong: if a DD wishes to co-maintain his package, Debian offers alioth.d.o which is already up and running; if he wishes to delegate... who wishes to delegate the maintainership of a package? I'd rather say that a DD sponsors other non-DD contributions. There is a plenty of ways a NM can contribute/join Debian: packaging is only the simpliest. Try to take some job or a package from the QA, a task from http://www.debian.org/devel/todo/ or anything that can came out from the "Developer's corner" section on the main site. Non-DDs contributing in this way do not help Debian: have you ever read of our lacks of packages? You don't, because we haven't. Do you want to proove your salt? You can do the same things a NM can do (see above). You insist in maintaining a package, well take one and work on alioth in the mean while. > I think there is a niche for such non-DD contributors. No there is not. The fact is that if one wants to contribute Debian, that is to say help the DDs, he should work in those fields Debian needs help. > Allowing DDs to take advantage of the work of lesser gods, whenever that > is practical and useful, seems a good thing for all parties concerned. that's a pity... there is no one here who feels to be a god: unfortunately, there are many outside here that think to be... looser gods. > And no, IANADD. We don't need you to tell us: db.debian.org does it. Finally, i do not understand why you quoted my mail... I was only objecting with this sentence: But becoming a DD is a long and painful way. Many developers just want to make their software available to Debian users but not become DDs. They are invited to upload their packages here and tell other users about this server. If you ask me what i think about mentors.debian.net i'd say we do not need such a service: i would have made any contributor to use alioth (register, work on your favorite package and release it). A better service would have been to create a place to coordinate people looking for sponsorship with those willing to offer it. ciao, -- Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis | Elegant or ugly code as well aliases: Luca ^De [A-Z][A-Za-z\-]*[iy]'\?s$ | as fine or rude sentences have Luca, a wannabe ``Good guy''. | something in common: they local LANG="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" | don't depend on the language.