On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 06:14:58AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:15:29PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 04:29:42AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > > Is this wanted? > > > > > > This may not be wanted, but what is your alternative? > > > > Well, it's not that we don't want gcc's documentation to be moved to > > non-free; rather, we don't want gcc's documentation to *be* non-free. > > The moving to non-free is just a side-effect; Adrian seems to be > > saying that we should eliminate the side-effect and ignore the core > > problem. > > What is the "core problem"? > > Are the differences between the FSF and Debian regarding issues like > invariant sections in Debian really the core problem?
On this issue, yes. > Or are things like hardware with binary-only drivers and without > specifications or software patents more important problems? Those are separate issues. It's not as if we suddenly turn a blind eye to binary-only drivers and software patents if we go on a crusade against non-free documentation. > As I tried to express in the "system administrator" example in the email > I sent a few minutes ago, I'm sure nearly everyone outside the inner > circle of the free software world will consider the whole GFDL > discussion as being absurd. Many people outside the community consider the whole "Free Software" vs "Open Source" discussion as being absurd, too; but the fact that this is true doesn't mean that the discussion is pointless, or that the cause isn't a worthy one. > In the Qt/GPL case Debian was at least able to argue that it would > otherwise break laws which convinces many people. Debian is about more than 'not breaking laws'. > And if the FSF doesn't want to change the GFDL in a way that Debian > wants I doubt moving GFDL'ed documentation to non-free will put much > pressure on them. Well, I guess that's a chance we have to take. In any case, our users should always have the option of getting the documentation from non-free. -- The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is precisely one bananosecond -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]