Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> writes: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 04:52:31PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> To respond preemptively to one expected reply: "I don't have time to answer >> these questions" is not a reasonable excuse, because if they don't have >> time, >> they need to ask for help. > > That's not a productive attitude. If they don't have time to answer > questions, they almost certainly don't have time to ask for help, > either. When that cirucmstance has arisen, the only way out is for others > to work out what help's actually needed and wanted and to provide it. > That's kinda hard, but no one promised taking over the world would > be easy.
And that is exactly what is wrong with Debian. This crash and burn attitude. Never ask for help even if you work yourself to death and have to ignore 50% of the problems. You have to ask for help before everything blows up. You have to ask for help at a time when you still have some spare resources to train extra help. Frankly for several key positions it seems way over due for a scream for more volunteers. On a practical side how should other people work out what help is needed if they are untrained and unable to even grasp what the actualy problems are? You can't help with a problem enclosed in a shroud of mystery. People are blindly guessing that something is wrong and all you are saying is: "No that's not it, he said so. Guess again." >> >I also see the keyring's been updated >> >earlier this week, including both a replacement key for Horms from late >> >last month, and Chip's requested updates. >> Indeed, complaining on debian-devel appears to get results, doesn't it? > > No, it doesn't. > >> At least, that's the conclusion that a rational outside observer would come >> to. > > No, it's the conclusion a simplistic outside observer would come to, > who failed to consider the possibility that the results may have come > due to independent processes in spite of the hysterical complaints > on debian-devel. > > It may be rational to note that that conclusion is being irrationally > drawn, and start responding to hysterical complaints by delaying > activities that'd otherwise be undertaken, of course. I'm idealistic > enough to dislike that conclusion, but, well *shrug*. Black Box science: Put X in, Y comes out. --> conclusion: Doing X produces Y. Take the lid of the box so people can see what it is actualy doing. ==> Transparency. > Cheers, > aj MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]