-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:12, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Saturday 27 May 2006 14:12, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: >>>> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:54:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >>>>>>> Oregon abolished the voting booth in 2000 >>>>>> Oh, so they get better counts and less fraud by doing away with ballot >>>>>> secrecy. How wonderful. >>>>> No, that's not how it works, your ballot is still secret. Think about >>>>> it for a minute. You sign the mailing envelope, your ballot goes in a >>>>> secrecy envelope. Elections compares signatures, opens the mailing >>>>> envelope and saves it for the voter rolls, sends the secrecy envelope >>>>> down the line off to the counting machines to be opened separately in >>>>> some other room. >>>> That is secrecy only to the government; not in general. For instance, >>>> someone can easily pressure you into voting for party or candidate X, >>>> _since they can verify it_ (just watch as you put the ballot in the >>>> envelope, and make sure you post it). With a voting booth, nobody can >>>> effectively pressure you, as your vote is secret from everybody. >>> Nobody can effectively pressure you, except everyone else in line, >>> campaigners trolling the polling place, and the inability to get the day >>> off to vote because polling places are only open 4-6 hours on election >>> day. If you want to ignore that vote by mail is more secure than the >>> voting booth, that's fine. Don't move to Oregon. >> With vote-by-mail from the privacy (and seclusion) of your home, >> who's to stop a political operative or angry husband from saying >> "vote Democrat, or else!"? > > The fact you can go to the police, and you can vote wherever you please. If > you're really that concerned about it, you can go down to county elections, > say your ballot got lost in the mail or tell them that someone else coerced > you (which voids the original ballot's mailing envelope, and if that mailing > envelope gets cast, they void the ballot it contains) and they'll give you a > fresh ballot and envelopes. You're welcome to vote at the elections office, > but if you want privacy you're going to have to lock yourself in a restroom. > > Penalties for screwing with other people's votes here are severe.
That's after-the-fact. Eliminate the possibility by voting in a private booth. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEeO4FS9HxQb37XmcRApVsAJ9YRsKag6F0t5+axbWxyA0BTdhWVgCfb7ZS gy3xo+3MkiptXVGcrDkGniw= =S8s9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]