Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 05:35:43PM +0000, Jon Dowland wrote: > > wow, I'm really amazed. For the KDE and Gnome teams (and I'm sure > others did it as well) there was mails requesting help to triage bugs > and so on (from january 2006). Reading this thread could let people > believe that those teams neved did that, and always denied they needed > help. Well, sorry if I don't like the sound of that, but I really don't > because it's at the antipodes of the reality.
Reading this thread makes me think that people are not aware that those teams have requested help. > Like every packaging team in debian, mailing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] or > [EMAIL PROTECTED] depending on how old the team is. Usually that list > is in the Maintainer or Uploaders field of the control file. > #debian-$team is also a good place to look. Those things are _obvious_. Do you expect potential helpers to search various list archives or mail maintainers to ask whether they need help? I would guess only people who have a specific issue with a package they want to get fixed would do that. >> One way is the existing wnpp system. >> <http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/help_requested> lists >> packages which have RFH filed. This list is very short and >> doesn't seem to include the examples which have been put >> forward in this thread at all. >> >> For such packages, where triage would be needed, would it >> not make sense to file an RFH bug to that effect? > > The mails I alluded to earlier (to seek for help) have seen (at least > for the KDE guys, I'll let the Gnome guys tell you how it worked for > them) 0 answer. My experience is that RFH bugs works well when Norbert > put it on vim to ask for co-maitenance or such very interesting software > to package. But when the job is to deal with KDE bugs, there is really > less people eager to do the job. What does it hurt to file a RFH bug? At least it is a centralized platform where potential helpers can find out about who need help. And it is a logical place for that. And the list is posted weekly on -devel. What it probably needs is a link from <http://www.debian.org/intro/help> to make it more obvious for people not yet familiar with Debian. > > Again, I do not appreciate the latent criticism of the big teams to > hide their understaff problem. It's blatantly bogus hence iritating, > almost insulting. Don't you wonder why it is perceived like that? Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]