On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 08:01:24PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:42:24AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 06:49:54PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > If you're claiming "you don't get to exercise your right to argue > > > about jurisdiction" is equivalent to "you must pet a cat", then, IMO, > > > you need to argue the same thing about "you don't get to exercise your > > > patent rights". > > You're aware that most of the people arguing that choice of venue clauses > > are non-free also hold the opinion that patent non-enforcement as a > > condition of the copyright license is also non-free?
> No, not at all. It's been years since I've followed -legal, and I > certainly don't keep track of who thinks what. I fundamentally don't > think it *matters* what individual subscribers to -legal think. I'm just saying that "you need to argue the same thing" isn't much of a barrier, since AFAIK the people arguing against choice-of-venue clauses on this theory have already done so in the past and are likely to do so again if given cause ;) > What I care about is having a reasonable, widely understood definition > of free software that meshes with the rest of the free software and open > source community, that Debian can use to work out what software we'll > distribute in main. That's a good goal; but Debian has disagreed with other folks in the past because we believed their interpretations were irrational and contrary to the long-term interests of Free Software, and it's my own opinion that various folks in the wider community are in this position today, so I hope that such meshing is the result of a sustained dialogue and not just Debian giving in to whatever the folks with the cool technology of the day that everyone wants to use have are peddling as a license. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]