Hi Martin, thanks for replying (with your DSA hat on :) ). On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 21:24, Martin Zobel-Helas<zo...@ftbfs.de> wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 20:16:06 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance >> > activity. >> > >> > Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to >> > me: should the project be notified of such core activities? should we >> > only relay on #debian-devel irc channel topic to know this? >> [...] >> >> This is what debian-infrastructure-announce is for (though >> debian-devel-announce might be appropriate in some cases). But there >> was no announcement in this case. > > There was minimal time between the announcement DSA got and the > shutdown.
ah I see, and maybe a "post-mortem" email, something that sound "ries was shutted down due to hosting facility management. We knew only moments ago, so this short notice alert" might also be interesting; even after the pressure to shut it down cleanly was over (1/2 hours after, for example). > I added "scheduled" to the topic of #debian-devel to indicated > it didn't broke randomly but was cleanly shut down by DSA. yeah, that was cleared on IRC > My fault for not sending a mail to d-i-a, sorry for that. and you are also the last one that sent an email there :) but I think we should use more that ml > If we would had got a more timely announcement from the hoster, i would > had surely send a mail to d-i-a. of course, knowing things before they happen it's always nice, but also send an email after, just to for information, it's also valuable. I don't think we what to know every single details of the operation, not the exact timing of start/end/overdue ; it would work also some sort of a short heads-up to notify the people caring about it (so that they are subscribed to d-i-a) of some infra operation is programmed/on going. > If you think we (DSA) are doing a bad job, I absolutely didn't mean that! (and honestly I don't think anything in the email supplies this assumption, in particular because I didn't want to say anything near to it.) My mail is only about communication, and it doesn't contain explicit nor implicit accusation for a bad job or anything similar. I just wanted to ask if sending a very short email to d-i-a should be done anytime there's something going on on our machines, if it wasn't done for a reason or just because a kind of unspoken rule of "we do the job, no need to tell it to anyone else", or if it's only me that feels the need for these notifications. > please feel free to attand > DSA BoF on DC9 and lets talk about it there. I wish I could: sadly I won't be at debconf. Cheers, -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
