Am 27.10.2010 23:32, schrieb Russell Coker: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2010, Pedro Paulo Argolo <jamer.ja...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> needs better support video cards from Nvidia and ATI video boards >> Intel. I had configuration problems because of that, and for a typical >> user is a very embarrassing situation. ~: ( > > The change from "nv" to "nouveau" was a good improvement for my main system > (Thinkpad T61), 2D graphics performance improved noticeably although I do > occasionally get transient corrupted bitmaps. Debian is dedicated to free > software (which precludes the non-free NVidia driver from being in main) and > I > don't want the security risk of running binary-only software on my important > systems.
Most desktop users also want to have some 2D/3D performance, or special features like tv out, xvideo acceleration etc etc. nouveau is a good replacement for nv, but still far away of being useful for powerful desktop users. On the ATI/AMD side, the free radeon driver does a quite good job, but since it uses KMS you have to disable KMS to get some performance (radeon+KMS = quite slow) The security side: Sure, security issues could be "easily" fixed with open drivers, but if I remember right, the only security issue with a closed-source prop. X11 video driver was 2-3 years ago with the nvidia one. And if there are some new sec. issues, you can still switch. > > I am not aware of anything that stops a Debian user from using a binary-only > Xorg driver. Not supported by us, officialy, they are also not on our installation cds (users have to activate non-free by themselve). > > Intel video cards work really well in my experience, performance is great > including on 3D graphics with games such as Warzone 2100, Super Tux Carts, > and > Tux Racer. Given a choice I'd just buy a system with Intel graphics. It may be great with such "historic" games, but don't try to play modern games with intel HW ;) > >> In this case I think >> Debian should look a little closer to Ubuntu, referring to usability. >> You can maintain a perfectly usable OS for both beginners and advanced >> users of Linux technology, without changing the philosophy course >> Debian. > > Ubuntu aren't as much into free software. ACK. > > Speaking for myself I'm more than happy for people who want Debian with non- > free software to use Ubuntu. I think that they are doing a great job of > making a Debian-derived distribution that supports non-free software and is > easy to use. I do not agree with you at all, but mostly because of some "religion" reasons :p Anyway for squeeze there will be (if nothing have been changed again) an image with some non-free enabled (like firmware foo). -- /* Mit freundlichem Gruß / With kind regards, Patrick Matthäi GNU/Linux Debian Developer E-Mail: pmatth...@debian.org patr...@linux-dev.org Comment: Always if we think we are right, we were maybe wrong. */
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