On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 02:21:40PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > In general we need to promote the reduction of (potential) bottlenecks > in Debian rather than the contrary. ... and don't get me wrong: I'm very > well aware that this specific "bottleneck" is a very good feature to > have for the preparation of a stable release, given it means more > scrutiny and ultimately more quality. But given that "rolling" seems to > be willing to trade some of that stability off in favor of fresher > software, it might be warranted to lift it off there.
I think that we should not do any trade off on the quality of rolling/testing/the-antechamber-of-stable, but instead raise the quality of unstable so that (which isn't *that* bad, unstable is rarely badly broken, and I know lots of "stable" releases of linux distributions that are in worse state than the average of unstable on the same set of packages…): - testing is and remains a release only tool, as the stable staging area. - unstable becomes more suitable for less experienced users. - stuff outside from unstable (experimental nowadays) gets more attention. I've already written one too long mail about that, but allowing DDs to spin off some repositories in a PPA-way can be the way. Managing a Debian mirror plus all the {uploading,building,bts}-infrastructure is a PITA, but if we make it easy, it'll get used. As in VCSes branching *and* merging "repositories" should be easy. For now we're not even in the packing CVS era since branching is a PITA. Let's make it easy, and then the whole rolling thing will be moot because unstable will be good enough for our users 98% of the time. [ And also relaxing our NMU policies would help too but that's yet another story: in a few words, we should allow NMUs as soon as there is enough acked-by for them… to enforce a minimal level of peer-review, so that quality is checked, and relax all the conditions to perform NMUs at once ] -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O madco...@debian.org OOO http://www.madism.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110501000619.gb14...@madism.org