On 03/11/2012 09:37 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:16:47AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:53:18AM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:39:13AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: >>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:00:30AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: >>>>> Your complaint, then, is against those who use the law to restrict your >>>>> use of your legally-acquired DVD or Blu-Ray disc and disingenuously call >>>>> it “protection”. It is misdirected against the Debian project. >>>> >>>> In other words, until non-US comes back, d-m.o can't go away. >>> >>> I think this demonstrates a lack of understanding about non-US. non-US >>> was for things that could be legally used everywhere, but could not be >>> *exported* from the US without serious hassle. non-US was *not* for >>> things which could not legally be used in the US. >> >> Old non-US did, yeah. The new need for geographically limited distribution >> has different rules. >> >>> And I would like to point out, for the record, that it is not only the >>> US that has stupid laws. Yes, we certainly have more than our share, >>> but, for example, Germany has stupid laws that prevent certain video >>> games from being played, >> >> Yet I don't see [Free]Doom excluded from Debian while decss is. That's the >> big difference here. >> >>> and Australia also has stupid video game laws that could be interpreted as >>> being binding against Debian. >> >> And Debian carries, say, Nethack, which has a sex scene (several lines of >> text, but still...). >> >>> I'm sure that every country has laws which are problematic; don't blame it >>> all on the US. >> >> When the totem law of Kbanga declares that displaying any words with two >> consonant clusters is illegal on Fridays, the rest of the world doesn't >> suffer. Being able to pop in a DVD and play it is something an average >> person takes for granted. If oppressive laws in a single country stop a >> good part of multimedia functionality, why should that functionality be >> taken away from everyone else? > > The problem is: decss is illegal in very much more than just the US. > This is a very different situation.
Why so? If I make a copy for backup and want to use it, how would I do that without use of decss or similar? Or is making a backup copy no legitimate use anymore? I think it's very stupid to make it illegal to distribute software just because it *can* be used illegaly. One always punishes the legitimate users in such cases and introduces an alternative (sometimes illegal) distribution channel of the software. Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f5c66c2.8010...@debian.org