On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 09:27:05PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote: > Stephen Allen, 2012-06-09 13:54:17 -0400 : > > [...] > > > +100 On that. Anyone that thinks 2 was better doesn't know much -- > > There's no call for that belittling.
You're right, poor choice of words. My apologies. ;-D > > What most are saying is they liked the layout better (I think). In > > that case Cinamon is a good choice; best of both worlds. > > For what it's worth: what I liked better was the fact that the DE > stayed out of the way. From my few but good-faith Gnome Shell > experiments[1], this is no longer the case except visually. > > Gnome Shell (Gnome 3.4 in general, it seems) decided that I was no > longer allowed a dedicated Meta key; instead, the Meta modifier moved to > the Alt key (and I no longer have an Alt modifier). As a regular Emacs > user, I used to have both Meta-* and Alt-* shortcuts. No longer. > > Gnome Shell decided that Alt-Tab would switch amongst applications, > and no longer amongst windows. So when I have several open windows on > the same desktop and I want to switch from one to another, I have to > stop and think whether the new window I want to focus is of the same > application as the one currently focused before I go Alt-Tab or > Alt-key-above-tab. If it is not, then I need to use both Alt-Tab and > Alt-k-a-t in sequence. And "same application" actually means "same > instance of an application", so if I have two Emacs windows open I need > to remember if I opened one from the other or if I started them > independently. This breaks the "flow". To make things worse, > applications are listed by name and not by window title, so my Gnus > shows up the same as any other Emacs and I have no way to find out > whether I'll end up focusing Gnus or another Emacs; I just have to focus > one and hope it's the right one. > > Oh yeah, right, there's an extension allowing to switch back to the > standard Alt-Tab behaviour; except it doesn't restrict itself to the > current workspace, so I get to browse through my dozens of windows. > > Gnome Shell decided that if I overshoot when moving my mouse too close > to the top-left corner I should be punished and forced to reach for my > Escape key before I can actually click on wherever I wanted to click. There's an extension that removes the hot corner. Right now it's in need up an upgrade to work with 3.4, unfortunately. Hey I hear you; I disliked GnomeShell at 1st too, but after using it I gradually learned to work-a-round some of the issues and others were fixed by extensions. It's a major uprade and complelely new so I know that it will get fleshed out as it matures. I like it's stability and speed so, am not willing to trade that for the old way. I gave Cinnamon a good shot, but found myself actually missing Gnome-Shell, go figure! It looks cleaner I guess .... <shrug> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120610160837.gb1...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net