On 08/08/2012 10:10 PM, Ulrich Dangel wrote: > Many things are trivial but I think it would be best to ship good defaults in > Debian. And have all programs available for tab completion without the need to > specify sudo in front is in my opinion a good default. > > There is also a question how to discover/find new tools, e.g: ifconfig doesn't > work but sudo ifconfig does. ifco<tab> doesn't work etc. This is in my opinion > inconsistent and changing PATH to include the sbin directories would fix that. > > It is not like Debian would be the first one, other Distributions like Arch, > Ubuntu and Fedora have added the sbin directories some time ago and it seems > to > work without a problem for them. > > cheers, > Ulrich > Here, you are mixing multiple problems into a single one.
- shell auto completion - location of binaries - PATH environment variable - sudo usage - the fact that ifconfig isn't in a user's path By the way, ifconfig doesn't implement all the features that Linux offers, which makes it the wrong tool to learn / use. If you aren't convince, see #222676 (reported in 2003), #525012, #119616 (reported in 2001), #324306, etc. Then, I came across #312669 ! Astonishing. It's been since 2005 that absolutely most of the issues of this thread have been discussed already. I don't think all this is reasonable. If the main issue is finding ifconfig with auto completion, then #312669 should be fixed. It seems that there's a near consensus that it's annoying (well, I'm ok with using "ip a" like H01lger, but it seems there's some other hold school guys that don't want to learn new stuff...). So, is there *anyone* that would not agree with moving ifconfig in /bin (or at least a symlink to it)? Shouldn't we address bugs that are 7 years old and annoying a lot of people? :) Cheers, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5022abab.1070...@debian.org