I demand that Steve Langasek may or may not have written... [snip] > The Fedora implementation does not require us to drop support for /usr as a > separate filesystem. It only requires us to ensure /usr is mounted before > init is started. > > - /usr as a separate filesystem mounted from an initramfs: supported > - /usr on the root filesystem: supported
Fine... > - /usr on a separate filesystem without the use of an initramfs: not > supported... and no discernable user demand for this. I use exactly that on most computers which I've set up (primary exception being a netbook, due to limited storage), and I don't want an initramfs. There may come a time when I decide to change this in favour of no separate /usr partition, but I very much doubt that it'll be before I need to replace hardware. I've carefully avoided use of initramfs images; I don't plan to start using them just so that /usr can be mounted early. You can call it irrational or whatever else you like; I don't care. > My knee-jerk reaction to the Fedora proposal had been that it was sick and > wrong and would cause unacceptable breakage for users on upgrades if Debian > adopted the same plan. However, I struggled to formulate a concrete > scenario where losing support for that last configuration would actually > make a difference. Upgrade-in-place ‘legacy’, if you like. [snip; not worth maintaining the distinction?] > This, plus the extensive upstream use (IMHO misuse) of software installed > to /usr as part of udev rules, means that in reality an ever increasing > number of libraries need to be shipped in /lib to properly handle > bootstrapping the mount of /usr using only the contents of /. My opinion? Misuse, with the intention of moving away from separate /usr. > In contrast, if we use an initramfs to handle mounting of /usr, we move all > the complexity out of the packaging and instead pull components into the > small initramfs only as needed. As far as I've been able to determine, > there really is no downside to the user from making this switch. For me, the presence of an initramfs is a downside when I've been able to do without without problem for so long. -- | _ | Darren Salt, using Debian GNU/Linux (and Android) | ( ) | | X | ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail | / \ | http://www.asciiribbon.org/ I'm not a complete idiot - some parts are missing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52ce18bc8c%lists...@moreofthesa.me.uk