On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:42:24PM +0100, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > Also, the people who write udev and systemd really know what they are > doing, and especially systemd is documented perfectly well - everyone > who does not feel comfortable with systemd should read at least the > basic docs. (and then think again, and then probably dislike it on a > basis of facts)
This is what I am constantly saying all the time. I always have the feeling that everyone who is dismissing systemd simply didn't read the documentation first. > Also, systemd hasn't anything to do with udev, there is no systemd > dependency in udev. Correct. You can build udev completely without systemd [1]. > If you have some time for entertainment, you might want to read this > thread on G+: > https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/R387kQb1zxc > (GKH, Lennart, Kay and several others falsify every reason for a full > udev fork (vs. just maintaining a small patch)) It should be mentioned in this context that GKH is actually one of the original authors of udev [2] *and* he is actually a Gentoo developer himself [3]. Yet he is dismissing the idea of a fork. Even the claims of the Gentoo people about the separate /usr partition are unjustified [4]. Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/MinimalBuilds > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Kroah-Hartman > [4] http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121119114824.gb7...@physik.fu-berlin.de