Ole Laursen <olau <at> hardworking.dk> writes: > For instance: I have in the past had downtime on servers I maintain because > Debian out of the box doesn't babysit processes. Apache or MySQL hit by a > random once-in-a-year irreproducible crash? Boom.
Hm, fun. I don’t usually run into those, but then I regularily reboot machines, especially after upgrades. This can very finely be solved without changing init though, for example with DJB dæmontools. Just saying. And note that, as opposed to the systemd people and Md, I’m not opposed to having systemd *available*. It can even be default if it’s possible to keep running the others, and I’d not mind GNOME depending on it either. I just want the user, any user (including myself), to be able to choose. Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Notably absent is GNOME, here. Proceeding with an install, tasksel has > "Debian Desktop Environment". This installs a different desktop > environment depending on the boot options selected: GNOME by default, > KDE/LXDE/XFCE instead if you selected those options in the boot menu. Yes, that’s ridiculous. For that matter, if I were a skilled user coming from, say, another distro or unixoid operating system, and wanted to actually install GNOME, I’d never select “Debian Desktop Environment” either, but try to figure out what’s the name of the correct metapackage to use after the installation either (for that matter, I think tasksel in its entirety has to simply go), since I’d want to install GNOME, not some, to be honest, unknown entity. Oh, and what’s with this automatically installing dictionaries just because I select en_GB.UTF-8 as default locale, too? And some other packages that aren’t installed when skipping the tasksel d-i step entirely… I’d have to test-install a system to find out the exact set, but while at d-i issues I thought I mention it, at the danger of it getting even more OT… bye, //mirabilos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20131025t155111-...@post.gmane.org