I not compare Debian with Windows. The FSF publishes a GNU/Linux freedom indicator. Debian is proprietary, sorry.
Le 28 févr. 2014 à 18:24, Octavio Alvarez <alvar...@alvarezp.ods.org> a écrit : > On 02/28/2014 05:18 AM, Solal Rastier wrote: >> 1. I'm not a troll >> 2. What is "top-post"? >> 3. Why I need stop? > > Hi, Solal. I'm not a Debian Developer, just a user, but let me take an > attempt to explain what happened, and please don't take this the wrong > way. I'll address each part of the issue without sugar-coating anything. > Please don't take it the wrong way. > > Debian is not "proprietary" or "closed" software. There is a lot of > effort put by the whole Debian team in making sure licenses are not > violated while keeping software fully free, always. If you knew Debian > just a little bit you would know this. > > However, you said: > >> Further proof that Debian is proprietary software.. > > Where did that come from? Initially you asked why were not the other > areas removed, which is a valid question despite having no context at > all, and suddenly there is an accusation? Are you seriously comparing > Debian with Windows? > > You see, if you want to prove a point you get your facts straight first. > If you want to get answers you use questions, not accusations or false > statements. > > Just by this alone, you fit the "troll" profile: a person that just > comes in to raise useless discussion with no beneficial outcome, not > even for himself, even more if it's accusation-based. > > About top-posting: in the message from Thibaut you were given a link > regarding top-posting. You ignored it (proved by the fact that you are > now asking what it is instead of having it read). You may have not seen > it of found it too long, but you didn't even Google for it (you would > have found at least a Wikipedia article about this with a more friendly > explanation). You just don't care to do your part of the job. > > Now, to your question: > > "Packages in the other archive areas (contrib, non-free) are not > considered to be part of the Debian distribution..." [1]. First match in > Google for "debian main contrib non-free". > > "... we also provide packages in separate sections that cannot be > included in the main distribution due to either a restrictive license or > legal issues. They include: [explanation continues]..." [2]. Second > match in the same Google search. > > [1] https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html > [2] https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages > > This should *at least* make it clear that contrib *is* open and free, > what the sections are, and what they are for. Imagine a program that is > GPL but includes images that are redistributable but not modifiable, the > images go into non-free. There is not a license violation and it doesn't > make the program proprietary, much less the whole Debian. > > Now, my question to you is: how does the non-free and contrib areas make > the whole project proprietary, considering that those are not even part > of the Debian project? And how does that "prove" --using your words-- it? > > Finally, you just replied with: > >> That's not an answer. For users, that doesn't change anything. > > Again, trolling. Now you are *demanding* a good answer despite not > asking a good question. We are not mind readers. You should *really* > look for and read and take the time to ask. Explain what your doubt is > and provide the relevant context to your question. You'll get a reply as > useful as your question. A vague question will give you a vague answer > at best. An accusive question will get you an accusive answer at best. > > (Personally, I didn't even understand your reply: if "that" is not an > answer, and you were already given other answers, that *what* is an > answer for you? For *what* users, that doesn't change anything? *What* > do users want to have changed? I only perceive a defense for > who-knows-what in your reply.) > > Anyway, my two cents. All help and questions are welcome, but some are > useful than others. Just don't get defensive and do your part of the > job. Remember that people are volunteers and they work on Debian mostly > on their free time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/544bef2c-c875-4ee5-87ed-948eb4d36...@me.com