-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 05/11/2014 03:18 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sat, 10 May 2014 19:47:10 +0100, Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> > wrote: > >> On Sat 10 May 2014 at 12:05:25 -0400, John wrote: >> >> A couple of quotes from your mail: >> >>> "I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of >>> almost all systemd's defenders." >> >> You're not looking for flames? You're kidding, aren't you? Your >> technical question is wrapped up in flame-baiting. > > Sorry if that comes around at flame-baiting, but John describes the > way the systemd world socially interacts with its outside quite > accurately. It is the same for me: social interaction with systemd > (and this includes reading bug reports and mailing lists without > participating actively) takes fun out of using Linux for me just for > the social sake. > > Something along the lines of systemd is technically needed and a good > idea, but the people behind it do not come along nice. Well said. This expresses a large and important part of my own viewpoint on this. Even if you change nothing about the software itself, think about how you present yourselves, people! Saying something different, or even only saying the same thing differently, can make a very large difference in how people perceive and react to you - and to what you're advocating. I don't post often, but when I do, I often go well out of my way and take considerable trouble to try to get this right. (Though I also often fail in the attempt.) - -- The Wanderer ("me too!") Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTb2x/AAoJEASpNY00KDJrUfcP+QGf0AADuUNR4UKBNKsfAFqa JXxhVcs8OpXiorAaV8ZUHGm4ozaU5xEDf9hi0TYMMsrX8KZJ2PHk/OTWig8vXSNd XTvLdJIppIRBbZ7ZbAMLFPsd9bOMo/XDohxqFCyct7EitJeyD/j+LoXDsqMWbY98 9ErTg9BCxqObPC0kvV0/2Lai3voiW+dBcAkdTDWnhUUnx+3HRpcOJnKz/SxflqMb k/m5zKzg9n5sOODdTxNzNYcswqvBDIsw8X+MQ73aQV15TvMn8lf2PSGR9kjYdZwS kAJMfaEpxBUQ2vtBRU2+3FmYF28EshWHNAmg06cIMD4ztPozOUbnYnhnT+mEytwP d2W40AWiCQDUzLXFubHtoo8voKvBKtptsiXeqx8CAspPwVRWTH8ZcXv88G5YiyEy RLta4e4+ud7+VV3NpEOdAAh149785DVqtVLvORtavbzCcXBF1JQZLboiU2jIUGVg EWMWh3XyGd/1h4/GOgykaolidWNFrdMuRNEn6U0QLFi4SIDox7uS7U1FawUnAqix QfJyvYB4Z5ii/AHl0SHdpaxmdyyymZXN6RTKm5V4gVB7zdey8dErCXrdw//5EUjl SSORt6z078kmASAFRutipaFWM4xxN3tJh6Hy1YnLW6hV/QSmP0JVCDs4T0Y4DKA0 f+LNU5QwaA0cYrhCP5gM =Hn7q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/536f6c80.9010...@fastmail.fm