Steve,

I did hand checked all copyright files in question and while php-imlib might 
have slipped me, I am quite sure that your claim about "lot of these" is false, 
since php-imlib is not the only package under dual licensing I have seen.

I do apologize for filling bug against php-imlib though.

O.
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Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org>
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> On 26. 6. 2014, at 19:29, Steve Langasek <vor...@debian.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 02:36:18PM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
>>> On 06/26/14 14:00, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>>> I should have done this earlier before cloning the bugs, so here's
>>> some more background on the bugs filled.
> 
>>> I did have a quite long and extensive chat with FTP Masters
>>> and our conclusion was that PHP License (any version) is
>>> suitable only for software that comes directly from "PHP Group",
>>> that basically means only PHP (src:php5) itself.
> 
>> Could you elaborate on the reasoning of that? Neither your email to -devel
>> nor the one to -legal[1] explains why you think so and whatever it is, I
>> think it's far from obvious. I think an outcome that results in a mass (RC)
>> bug filing needs to be better documented than that -- and btw, you're
>> supposed to mail debian-devel *before* you do so, not after; cf. developer's
>> reference 7.1.1.
> 
>> Besides the importance of the bug filing itself and removing half of PHP
>> from Debian (including packages such as php-memcached!), I have another
>> point to make: as you're well aware, we're in the progress of packaging
>> Facebook's HHVM, which is a new runtime engine for PHP that is gaining some
>> popularity[2].
> 
> Furthermore, there are bugs in the actual MBF that's been filed here.  Bug
> #752639 was filed against php-imlib, which gives the PHP license as one of
> *two* options under which the work can be distributed - LGPL is the other,
> and is in practice the one that's in effect for Debian.
> 
> So I think we need a review here of the MBF methodology, because the
> problems with the PHP License were already identified and worked through in
> the archive a decade ago - so a lot of these bugs are probably false
> positives.
> 
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