Steve, I did hand checked all copyright files in question and while php-imlib might have slipped me, I am quite sure that your claim about "lot of these" is false, since php-imlib is not the only package under dual licensing I have seen.
I do apologize for filling bug against php-imlib though. O. -- Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org> Knot DNS (https://www.knot-dns.cz/) – a high-performance DNS server > On 26. 6. 2014, at 19:29, Steve Langasek <vor...@debian.org> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 02:36:18PM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: >>> On 06/26/14 14:00, Ondřej Surý wrote: >>> I should have done this earlier before cloning the bugs, so here's >>> some more background on the bugs filled. > >>> I did have a quite long and extensive chat with FTP Masters >>> and our conclusion was that PHP License (any version) is >>> suitable only for software that comes directly from "PHP Group", >>> that basically means only PHP (src:php5) itself. > >> Could you elaborate on the reasoning of that? Neither your email to -devel >> nor the one to -legal[1] explains why you think so and whatever it is, I >> think it's far from obvious. I think an outcome that results in a mass (RC) >> bug filing needs to be better documented than that -- and btw, you're >> supposed to mail debian-devel *before* you do so, not after; cf. developer's >> reference 7.1.1. > >> Besides the importance of the bug filing itself and removing half of PHP >> from Debian (including packages such as php-memcached!), I have another >> point to make: as you're well aware, we're in the progress of packaging >> Facebook's HHVM, which is a new runtime engine for PHP that is gaining some >> popularity[2]. > > Furthermore, there are bugs in the actual MBF that's been filed here. Bug > #752639 was filed against php-imlib, which gives the PHP license as one of > *two* options under which the work can be distributed - LGPL is the other, > and is in practice the one that's in effect for Debian. > > So I think we need a review here of the MBF methodology, because the > problems with the PHP License were already identified and worked through in > the archive a decade ago - so a lot of these bugs are probably false > positives. > > -- > Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS > Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. > Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ > slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org