On 2014-07-01, Steve Langasek <vor...@debian.org> wrote: > https://bugs.debian.org/src:systemd-shim > > Show me a bug report, not FUD.
I'd rather point to the likely-faulty code. it is likely in or around src:kde-workspace/powerdevil/daemon/backends/upower/powerdevilupowerbackend.cpp when checking for suspend capabilities with upower from experimental. Something in there doesn't properly detect that systemd-shim + logind actually can let you suspend the machine (and upower 0.99 has delegated it to logind). >> Also, post-upgrade-pre-reboot systems has had issues since forever, > > No. There have been very few instances in which the system was left in an > unusable state after a dist-upgrade, even for desktops. Try do a update of your kde-plasma-desktop across where the internal on-disk data cache changes (at least every y in x.y.z, and sometimes in .z releases). The web browser stops working, the email application stops working, anything that uses the on-disk caches for looking up their plugins ceases to work. This is how it has been as long as I've been around. >> and I think even the upgrade notes recommends to not dist-upgrade from >> within X. > > This was written at a time when X itself was considered flaky enough that it > posed a risk to the user's ability to complete the upgrade. After years of |4.1.5. Prepare a safe environment for the upgrade | |The distribution upgrade should be done either locally from a textmode |virtual console (or a directly connected serial terminal), or remotely |via an ssh link. > Unless we bring one back by letting systemd + desktop environments screw us > over anew. Here is nothing new. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lov93v$c79$1...@ger.gmane.org