Noel Torres wrote: 
> So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise (for the user) path.
> 
> Should not logind depend on systemd-shim | systemd-sysv instead?

No. Systemd is the default init system. The default dependencies should
reflect that. 

And from a purely functional point of view, it makes more sense to bring
by default the standard, upstream-supported, well-tested solution, than
the Debuntu-specific hack to use it with an inferior init system. 

Cheers,
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