On 31 October 2014 08:39, Juerg Haefliger <jue...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Thomas Goirand <z...@debian.org> wrote: >> >> On 10/29/2014 12:54 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 03:58:04PM +0200, Juerg Haefliger wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Thomas Goirand <z...@debian.org> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On 07/18/2014 07:49 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >>>>> [2] I contacted Steve McIntyre privately about it, but he didn't >> >>>>> reply. >> >>>> >> >>>> Bugger, sorry. Must have missed the mail totally. :-( >> >>> >> >>> As I wrote on IRC, I thought you were busy with arm stuff, so I didn't >> >>> dare to ask again. It's probably my fault for not insisting. >> >>> >> >>>> I think we could/should have space on cdimage etc. >> >>> >> >>> That'd be awesome! >> >>> >> >>>> - how big are we talking? >> >>> >> >>> 350 / 400 MB for the normal compressed qcow2 image. We could as well >> >>> ship the raw image, but I don't think that's necessary since it's >> >>> possible to convert the qcow2 back into .img using qemu-img. >> >> >> >> I'd love to be able to download Debian cloud images from an official >> >> place. >> >> What is missing/required to make this happen? Can I help? >> > >> > Simple lack of time thus far, to be honest. :-( >> > >> > Thomas: where are your images currently? >> >> Hi Steve, >> >> I upload them to the HP cloud, but also over here: >> http://archive.gplhost.com/openstack-images/ > > Very good. Thanks for the pointer. > > >> Though this image contains the bootlogd patch to support logging on >> multiple consoles. I'm currently trying to make this updated in >> proposed-updates though (see: #767202). >> >> On 10/29/2014 05:13 AM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: >> > Lets build something like this: >> > https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/ but, for Debian, of >> > course... ? >> > I can help. >> >> Let's stick to the plan of distributing the images together with the >> Debian CDs. > > What exactly does that mean, 'together with the CDs'? >
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.7.0/ > >> It's not the role of Debian to advertize for a particular >> provider like Amazon (even though it's IMO ok to maintain the images >> within large cloud service providers). > > I don't think this is about promoting cloud providers. It's about providing > a central place for users to learn where official Debian images can be > found. Are you concerned about the effort to maintain such a site or about > Debian being perceived as favoring certain cloud providers or is it against > some Debian policy? > It's more to do with whether the images are fully free, built from unmodified sources, are verifiable locally, and that the thing launched from cloud provider panels is actually debian. I would be happy to see to ec2/openstack/etc compatible images hosted on cdimage, which users then may upload into a cloud environment and launch them. Debian policy is about packaging only. This is more in-line with good intentions / Debian social contract. > >> You may also know that we already provide some images within AWS. See >> the debian-cloud list. I would recommend anyone that maintain images to >> advertize about them in that list rather than in debian-devel or on the >> Debian web site. > > IMO it feels wrong for a potential user to have to hunt through mailing > lists to find and learn about official Debian cloud images. A central place > to download images (OpenStack, AWS, Docker, ...) is very useful, links to > providers that host such images would be a nice add-on for end users but I > can understand if there's resentment. > -- Regards, Dimitri. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/canbhlug3fxpdz-v-5kppl8sbym585i5ccknqesxqdv9c5pj...@mail.gmail.com