Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net> writes: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Christian Seiler <christ...@iwakd.de> wrote: >> Am 16.02.2015 um 02:54 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton: >>> >>> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/ >> >> >> It's funny that when Wheezy (not Jessie!) came out, nobody complained >> that libsystemd-login0 (which is now part of libsystemd0) was as a >> dependency of dbus, so it is probably already installed on most desktop >> systems running current Debian stable. > > i'll hazard a guess that it's because they had no idea that, in the > very near future, all the major desktop developers and all the major > distros would make the unilateral decision to hard-code the > *exclusive* use of systemd (or parts of it).
Really? Now why would such a disparate group of programmers want to use a particular piece of software? Maybe because it solves some of their problems and they don't have to reinvent the wheel? You don't hear me whining that almost all C++ software these days pulls in libboost. > > my assessment is that it's that total lack of choice that is causing > people to get so upset. Funny, I don't see those same people upset that they have only one choice for authentication (PAM). Or that selinux is installed by default on almost all distros. And you have a choice: stick with old software, or (help) code a replacement yourself. That has always been the Free Software way. But dictatorially coming in and demanding that volunteers join you in riding your hobby horse? Please leave. Mart -- "We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes." --- AJS, quoting an uncertain source. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/86zj8d79wo....@gaheris.avalon.lan